diff --git a/debug.go b/debug.go
index 490b113..0e3ae94 100644
--- a/debug.go
+++ b/debug.go
@@ -86,7 +86,8 @@ func (tk *guiWidget) dumpWidget(s string) {
 	} else {
 		end = fmt.Sprintf("%-8s %-8s %s", tk.WidgetType(), tk.cuiName, tk.String())
 	}
-	if tk.findParentTable() != nil {
+	if tk.node.InTable() {
+		// log.Log(GOCUI, "findParentTAble()", tk.labelN, tk.cuiName, tk.node.WidgetId)
 		end += " (table)"
 	}
 	log.Log(GOCUI, s1, s, end)
diff --git a/eventBindings.go b/eventBindings.go
index 9819706..acc25a8 100644
--- a/eventBindings.go
+++ b/eventBindings.go
@@ -109,22 +109,12 @@ func theDarkness(g *gocui.Gui, v *gocui.View) error {
 }
 
 func wheelsUp(g *gocui.Gui, v *gocui.View) error {
-	// log.Info("private wheels up")
-	me.stdout.pager -= 2
-	if me.stdout.pager < 0 {
-		me.stdout.pager = 0
-	}
-	me.stdout.tk.refreshStdout()
+	stdoutWheelsUp()
 	return nil
 }
 
 func wheelsDown(g *gocui.Gui, v *gocui.View) error {
-	// log.Info("you've landed")
-	me.stdout.pager += 2
-	if me.stdout.pager > len(me.stdout.outputS) {
-		me.stdout.pager = len(me.stdout.outputS)
-	}
-	me.stdout.tk.refreshStdout()
+	stdoutWheelsDown()
 	return nil
 }
 
diff --git a/eventBindingsStdout.go b/eventBindingsStdout.go
index f1c574e..8387ea2 100644
--- a/eventBindingsStdout.go
+++ b/eventBindingsStdout.go
@@ -77,14 +77,12 @@ func stdoutHome(g *gocui.Gui, v *gocui.View) error {
 }
 
 func stdoutArrowUp(g *gocui.Gui, v *gocui.View) error {
-	me.stdout.pager += 1
-	me.stdout.tk.refreshStdout()
+	stdoutWheelsUp()
 	return nil
 }
 
 func stdoutArrowDown(g *gocui.Gui, v *gocui.View) error {
-	me.stdout.pager -= 1
-	me.stdout.tk.refreshStdout()
+	stdoutWheelsDown()
 	return nil
 }
 
@@ -103,3 +101,23 @@ func stdoutPgdn(g *gocui.Gui, v *gocui.View) error {
 	tk.refreshStdout()
 	return nil
 }
+
+// scrolling up with the mouse wheel (or trackpad)
+func stdoutWheelsUp() {
+	// log.Info("private wheels up")
+	me.stdout.pager -= 2
+	if me.stdout.pager < 0 {
+		me.stdout.pager = 0
+	}
+	me.stdout.tk.refreshStdout()
+}
+
+// scrolling down with the mouse wheel (or trackpad)
+func stdoutWheelsDown() {
+	// log.Info("you've landed")
+	me.stdout.pager += 2
+	if me.stdout.pager > len(me.stdout.outputS) {
+		me.stdout.pager = len(me.stdout.outputS)
+	}
+	me.stdout.tk.refreshStdout()
+}
diff --git a/find.go b/find.go
index 13d9c0e..2cb94f3 100644
--- a/find.go
+++ b/find.go
@@ -186,20 +186,6 @@ func (tk *guiWidget) findParentWindow() *guiWidget {
 	return tk.parent.findParentWindow()
 }
 
-func (tk *guiWidget) findParentTable() *guiWidget {
-	if tk.isTable {
-		log.Info("findParentTAble()", tk.labelN, tk.cuiName, tk.node.WidgetId)
-		return tk
-	}
-	if tk.node.WidgetId == 0 {
-		return nil
-	}
-	if tk.parent == nil {
-		return nil
-	}
-	return tk.parent.findParentWindow()
-}
-
 func (tk *guiWidget) findWidgetByName(name string) *guiWidget {
 	if tk.cuiName == name {
 		return tk
diff --git a/init.go b/init.go
index 2820bcf..71ac4b2 100644
--- a/init.go
+++ b/init.go
@@ -148,6 +148,12 @@ func initPlugin() {
 			me.stdout.disable = true
 		}
 	}
+	if val, err := me.myTree.ConfigFind("stdoutoffscreen"); err == nil {
+		if val == "false" {
+			// log.Log(NOW, "gocui: START ON SCREEN TRUE")
+			me.stdout.startOnscreen = true
+		}
+	}
 	if val, err := me.myTree.ConfigFind("dark"); err == nil {
 		if val == "true" {
 			me.dark = true
@@ -190,11 +196,12 @@ func initPlugin() {
 	if val, err := me.myTree.ConfigFind("stdoutsize"); err == nil {
 		parts := strings.Fields(val)
 		if len(parts) == 4 {
-			log.Info("initial stdout settings:", parts)
+			log.Info("initial stdout settings:", parts, "setting startOnscreen = true")
 			me.stdout.w, _ = strconv.Atoi(parts[0])
 			me.stdout.h, _ = strconv.Atoi(parts[1])
 			me.stdout.lastW, _ = strconv.Atoi(parts[2])
 			me.stdout.lastH, _ = strconv.Atoi(parts[3])
+			me.stdout.startOnscreen = true
 		} else {
 			log.Info("initial stdout settings parse error:", parts)
 		}
@@ -393,9 +400,8 @@ func refreshGocui() {
 				me.refresh = false
 			}
 			if me.stdout.changed {
-				log.Log(NOW, "newWindowTrigger() TODO: gocui should save the stdout size & location here")
 				me.stdout.changed = false
-				me.stdout.tk.dumpWidget("save")
+				lastRefresh = time.Now()
 				new1 := new(tree.ToolkitConfig)
 				new1.Plugin = "gocui"
 				new1.Name = "stdoutsize"
@@ -403,6 +409,8 @@ func refreshGocui() {
 				height := me.stdout.tk.gocuiSize.h1 - me.stdout.tk.gocuiSize.h0
 				new1.Value = fmt.Sprintf("%d %d %d %d", width, height, me.stdout.tk.gocuiSize.w0, me.stdout.tk.gocuiSize.h0)
 				me.myTree.ConfigSave(new1)
+				// log.Log(NOW, "newWindowTrigger() gocui setting stdout size =", new1.Value)
+				// me.stdout.tk.dumpWidget("save")
 			}
 		}