diff --git a/argv.go b/argv.go
index 7285464..8dc5ae5 100644
--- a/argv.go
+++ b/argv.go
@@ -28,6 +28,7 @@ type args struct {
 	Normal     *NormalCmd   `arg:"subcommand:normal"                    help:"set every repo to the default state for software development"`
 	Patch      *PatchCmd    `arg:"subcommand:patch"                     help:"make patchsets"`
 	Pull       *PullCmd     `arg:"subcommand:pull"                      help:"run 'git pull'"`
+	Tag        *TagCmd      `arg:"subcommand:tag"                       help:"manage git tags"`
 	URL        string       `arg:"--connect"                            help:"forge url"`
 	All        bool         `arg:"--all"                                help:"git commit --all"`
 	Build      string       `arg:"--build"                              help:"build a repo"`
@@ -79,6 +80,12 @@ type PullCmd struct {
 	Patches *EmptyCmd `arg:"subcommand:patches"       help:"only check repos with patches"`
 }
 
+type TagCmd struct {
+	List   *EmptyCmd `arg:"subcommand:list"          help:"list the tags"`
+	Clean  *EmptyCmd `arg:"subcommand:clean"         help:"clean out old and duplicate tags"`
+	Delete string    `arg:"--delete"                 help:"delete a tag"`
+}
+
 type ConfigAddCmd struct {
 	Path        string `arg:"--path"                            help:"absolute path of the git repo"`
 	GoPath      string `arg:"--gopath"                          help:"GO path of the git repo"`
@@ -186,10 +193,12 @@ func DoAutoComplete(argv []string) {
 		fmt.Println("")
 	case "verify":
 		fmt.Println("user devel master")
+	case "tag":
+		fmt.Println("list --delete clean")
 	default:
 		if argv[0] == ARGNAME {
 			// list the subcommands here
-			fmt.Println("help list checkout clean commit dirty fetch gui normal merge patch pull")
+			fmt.Println("help list checkout clean commit dirty fetch gui normal merge patch pull tag")
 		}
 	}
 	os.Exit(0)
diff --git a/doTag.go b/doTag.go
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..d2d5ca6
--- /dev/null
+++ b/doTag.go
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+// Copyright 2017-2025 WIT.COM Inc. All rights reserved.
+// Use of this source code is governed by the GPL 3.0
+
+package main
+
+// checks that repos are in a "normal" state
+
+import (
+	"time"
+
+	"go.wit.com/lib/protobuf/gitpb"
+	"go.wit.com/log"
+)
+
+func doTag() error {
+	if argv.Tag.List != nil {
+		log.Info("list tags here")
+		return nil
+	}
+
+	ns := "go.wit.com/apps/forge"
+	repo := me.forge.Repos.FindByNamespace(ns)
+	if repo == nil {
+		return log.Errorf("could not find %s", ns)
+	}
+
+	tagTablePB := makeTagTablePB(repo.Tags)
+	// tbox := win.Bottom.Box().SetProgName("TBOX")
+	// t.SetParent(tbox)
+	tagTablePB.MakeTable()
+	tagTablePB.PrintTable()
+
+	log.Info("do other tag stuff here")
+	return nil
+}
+
+func makeTagTablePB(pb *gitpb.GitTags) *gitpb.GitTagsTable {
+	t := pb.NewTable("tagList")
+	t.NewUuid()
+
+	sf := t.AddStringFunc("Ref Name", func(r *gitpb.GitTag) string {
+		return r.GetRefname()
+	})
+	sf.Width = 16
+
+	colAge := t.AddTimeFunc("age", func(repo *gitpb.GitTag) time.Time {
+		// todo
+		return time.Now()
+	})
+	t.AddHash()
+	t.AddSubject()
+	colAge.Width = 4
+	return t
+}
diff --git a/main.go b/main.go
index 007f4a4..d5fdf52 100644
--- a/main.go
+++ b/main.go
@@ -121,6 +121,11 @@ func main() {
 		okExit("")
 	}
 
+	if argv.Tag != nil {
+		doTag()
+		okExit("")
+	}
+
 	if argv.Normal != nil {
 		if argv.Normal.On != nil {
 			if me.forge.Config.Mode == forgepb.ForgeMode_NORMAL {