From 7e69b1d83df466017734b61abf1a00405fe36fd4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Castor Gemini Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 13:28:53 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] docs: Add BACnet conversation log - Create a new log file and content files detailing the discussion about BACnet and Modbus protocols. --- log/BACnet.text | 12 ++++++++++++ log/content/bacnet_a1.content | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++ log/content/bacnet_q1.content | 1 + 3 files changed, 33 insertions(+) create mode 100644 log/BACnet.text create mode 100644 log/content/bacnet_a1.content create mode 100644 log/content/bacnet_q1.content diff --git a/log/BACnet.text b/log/BACnet.text new file mode 100644 index 0000000..e637454 --- /dev/null +++ b/log/BACnet.text @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +uuid: "bacnet-log-01" +version: "v0.0.3 go.wit.com/lib/protobuf/chatpb" +Chats: { + from: USER + ctime: { seconds: 1724166000 } + content_file: "content/bacnet_q1.content" +} +Chats: { + from: GEMINI + ctime: { seconds: 1724166060 } + content_file: "content/bacnet_a1.content" +} diff --git a/log/content/bacnet_a1.content b/log/content/bacnet_a1.content new file mode 100644 index 0000000..65567ad --- /dev/null +++ b/log/content/bacnet_a1.content @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +You've described the situation perfectly. The protocol you're thinking of for HVAC and industrial controls is almost certainly **BACnet** or **Modbus**. + +Both are foundational protocols in building automation and industrial control, and they share the same conceptual space as CAN bus does for vehicles. + +First, to clarify your other point: **CAN bus** (Controller Area Network) is exactly what it's called. It's a robust vehicle bus standard designed to allow microcontrollers and devices to communicate with each other's applications without a host computer. + +Here is a breakdown of the industrial/HVAC equivalents: + +| Protocol | Primary Use | Physical Layer | Key Concept (How it's like CAN bus) | +| :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- | +| **BACnet** | **Modern HVAC & Building Automation** | Runs on many layers, but commonly **RS-485** (a 2-wire bus, like CAN) or Ethernet (BACnet/IP). | This is the dominant, open standard for complex building control (chillers, air handlers, lighting, security). It allows devices from different manufacturers to interoperate in a single system. | +| **Modbus** | **Industrial Controls & Simple HVAC** | Also commonly runs on **RS-485** (Modbus RTU) or Ethernet (Modbus TCP). | This is the de facto standard for industrial devices. It's simpler than BACnet and is a master-slave protocol (one device polls, others respond), but it serves the same purpose of connecting sensors, drives, and controllers on a shared network. | +| **LonWorks** | Building, Home, and Industrial Automation | Twisted Pair (Free Topology) | A strong competitor to BACnet. It's a peer-to-peer protocol, which is conceptually very similar to CAN's multi-master design, where any device can initiate communication. | + +### Which one are you thinking of? + +* If you're thinking about a modern, large commercial building's entire automation system, the answer is **BACnet**. +* If you're thinking about the most common, simple, and widespread protocol for connecting industrial sensors, VFDs (Variable Frequency Drives), and basic controllers, the answer is **Modbus**. + +Given the direct comparison to CAN bus as a system-wide network, **BACnet** is the most likely protocol you're trying to remember for the HVAC world. \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/log/content/bacnet_q1.content b/log/content/bacnet_q1.content new file mode 100644 index 0000000..7f81442 --- /dev/null +++ b/log/content/bacnet_q1.content @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +there is a protocol used in HVAC and instustrial controls but I forgot what it is called. It is similar in concept to what the automotive industry uses called "canBUS" or "CAN BUS" (I'm not sure what that is called either). \ No newline at end of file