diff --git a/darwin/scrollview.m b/darwin/scrollview.m
index 5767e00f..ec24cbd5 100644
--- a/darwin/scrollview.m
+++ b/darwin/scrollview.m
@@ -1,15 +1,11 @@
 // 27 may 2016
 #include "uipriv_darwin.h"
 
-// TODO scrolled drawing test may have a random size outside the area size
+// see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37979445/how-do-i-properly-set-up-a-scrolling-nstableview-using-auto-layout-what-ive-tr for why we don't use auto layout
 
 struct scrollViewData {
-	NSLayoutConstraint *documentLeading;
-	NSLayoutConstraint *documentTop;
 	BOOL hscroll;
-	NSLayoutConstraint *documentTrailing;
 	BOOL vscroll;
-	NSLayoutConstraint *documentBottom;
 };
 
 NSScrollView *mkScrollView(struct scrollViewCreateParams *p, struct scrollViewData **dout)
@@ -41,7 +37,6 @@ NSScrollView *mkScrollView(struct scrollViewCreateParams *p, struct scrollViewDa
 	[sv setVerticalScrollElasticity:NSScrollElasticityAutomatic];
 	[sv setAllowsMagnification:NO];
 
-	[p->DocumentView setTranslatesAutoresizingMaskIntoConstraints:NO];
 	[sv setDocumentView:p->DocumentView];
 	d = uiNew(struct scrollViewData);
 	scrollViewSetScrolling(sv, d, p->HScroll, p->VScroll);
@@ -50,85 +45,16 @@ NSScrollView *mkScrollView(struct scrollViewCreateParams *p, struct scrollViewDa
 	return sv;
 }
 
-static void scrollViewConstraintsRemove(NSScrollView *sv, struct scrollViewData *d)
-{
-	if (d->documentLeading != nil) {
-		[sv removeConstraint:d->documentLeading];
-		[d->documentLeading release];
-		d->documentLeading = nil;
-	}
-	if (d->documentTop != nil) {
-		[sv removeConstraint:d->documentTop];
-		[d->documentTop release];
-		d->documentTop = nil;
-	}
-	if (d->documentTrailing != nil) {
-		[sv removeConstraint:d->documentTrailing];
-		[d->documentTrailing release];
-		d->documentTrailing = nil;
-	}
-	if (d->documentBottom != nil) {
-		[sv removeConstraint:d->documentBottom];
-		[d->documentBottom release];
-		d->documentBottom = nil;
-	}
-}
-
 // based on http://blog.bjhomer.com/2014/08/nsscrollview-and-autolayout.html because (as pointed out there) Apple's official guide is really only for iOS
 void scrollViewSetScrolling(NSScrollView *sv, struct scrollViewData *d, BOOL hscroll, BOOL vscroll)
 {
-	NSView *cv, *dv;
-	NSLayoutRelation rel;
-
-	scrollViewConstraintsRemove(sv, d);
-	cv = [sv contentView];
-	dv = [sv documentView];
-
-	d->documentLeading = mkConstraint(dv, NSLayoutAttributeLeading,
-		NSLayoutRelationEqual,
-		cv, NSLayoutAttributeLeading,
-		1, 0,
-		@"NSScrollView document leading constraint");
-	[sv addConstraint:d->documentLeading];
-	[d->documentLeading retain];
-
-	d->documentTop = mkConstraint(dv, NSLayoutAttributeTop,
-		NSLayoutRelationEqual,
-		cv, NSLayoutAttributeTop,
-		1, 0,
-		@"NSScrollView document top constraint");
-	[sv addConstraint:d->documentTop];
-	[d->documentTop retain];
-
 	d->hscroll = hscroll;
 	[sv setHasHorizontalScroller:d->hscroll];
-	rel = NSLayoutRelationGreaterThanOrEqual;
-	if (!d->hscroll)
-		rel = NSLayoutRelationEqual;
-	d->documentTrailing = mkConstraint(dv, NSLayoutAttributeTrailing,
-		rel,
-		cv, NSLayoutAttributeTrailing,
-		1, 0,
-		@"NSScrollView document trailing constraint");
-	[sv addConstraint:d->documentTrailing];
-	[d->documentTrailing retain];
-
 	d->vscroll = vscroll;
 	[sv setHasVerticalScroller:d->vscroll];
-	rel = NSLayoutRelationGreaterThanOrEqual;
-	if (!d->vscroll)
-		rel = NSLayoutRelationEqual;
-	d->documentBottom = mkConstraint(dv, NSLayoutAttributeBottom,
-		rel,
-		cv, NSLayoutAttributeBottom,
-		1, 0,
-		@"NSScrollView document bottom constraint");
-	[sv addConstraint:d->documentBottom];
-	[d->documentBottom retain];
 }
 
 void scrollViewFreeData(NSScrollView *sv, struct scrollViewData *d)
 {
-	scrollViewConstraintsRemove(sv, d);
 	uiFree(d);
 }
diff --git a/darwin/table.m b/darwin/table.m
index 862e0bd9..c46f4249 100644
--- a/darwin/table.m
+++ b/darwin/table.m
@@ -322,16 +322,5 @@ uiTable *uiNewTable(uiTableModel *model)
 	p.VScroll = YES;
 	t->sv = mkScrollView(&p, &(t->d));
 
-	dispatch_after(
-	dispatch_time(DISPATCH_TIME_NOW,3*NSEC_PER_SEC),
-	dispatch_get_main_queue(),
-	^{
-	for(NSView *v in t->sv.subviews){
-	NSLog(@"%@ %p %@", [v class], v, NSStringFromRect([v frame]));
-	for(NSView *v2 in v.subviews)
-	NSLog(@"    %@ %p %@", [v2 class], v2, NSStringFromRect([v2 frame]));
-	}
-	});
-
 	return t;
 }