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general list:

  • events:
    • Checkbox.Toggled (.Clicked? or some other name?)
    • Combobox.Selected
    • LineEdit.Typing
      • LineEdit.Finished? or will that be a property of dialog boxes?
    • Listbox.Selected
  • Grid niceness
    • ability to have controls span rows and columns
    • ability to horizontally or vertically align controls within their cells
  • Window.SizeToFit() or WIndow.OptimalSize() (use: Window.SetOptimalSize())) for sizing a window to the control's interest
    • with the current code, will be a bit of a kludge, because preferredSize() assumes it's running on the main thread without locks
  • Control.Show()/Control.Hide()
  • Groupbox
  • character-limited entry fields (not for passwords), numeric entry fields, multiline entry fields
    • possible rename of LineEdit?
      • especially for password fields - NewPasswordEntry()?
  • allow Combobox to have initial settings
  • Combobox and Listbox insertions and deletions should allow bulk (...string/...int)
  • Combobox/Listbox.DeleteAll
  • Combobox/Listbox.Select (with Listbox.Select allowing bulk)
  • Listbox.SelectAll
  • Listbox/Combobox.Index(n)
    • Index(n) is the name used by reflect.Value; use a different one?
  • figure out where to auto-place windows in Cocoa (also window coordinates are still not flipped properly so (0,0) on screen is the bottom-left)
  • make Combobox and Listbox satisfy sort.Interface?
  • should a noneditable Combobox be allowed to return to unselected mode by the user?
  • provide a way for MouseEvent/KeyEvent to signal that the keypress caused the Area to gain/lose focus
    • provide an event for leaving focus so a focus rectangle can be drawn
  • when adding menus:
    • provide automated About, Preferneces, and Quit that place these in the correct location
      • Quit should pulse AppQuit
  • will probably want to bring back Event() as NewEvent() should that facility be necesary for menus, etc.
  • figure out why at least the 64-bit build hates being run under Application Verifier
  • make sure the preferred size of a Listbox is the minimum size needed to display everything on all platforms (capped at the screen height, of course?)
  • make sure the image drawn on an Area looks correct on all platforms (is not cropped incorrectly or blurred)
[01:16] <andlabs> so now I need an image that if it's drawn blurry, even slightly, the blur is very obvious... not sure what image that would be though
[01:16] *** gburd gives gburd permission to talk.
[01:16] <jsimnz> closeup of a face, pretty easy to tell if its blurry
[01:16] *** pascalj gives pascalj permission to talk.
[01:17] *** gburd takes the permission to talk from gburd.
[01:18] <andlabs> in what way
[01:19] <andlabs> (also it'd need to be public domain and I can't take a photo o fmy face right now)
[01:19] *** pascalj takes the permission to talk from pascalj.
[01:19] <jsimnz> hd photo of face, between pores, and wrinkles, noticing unfocus or blur is pretty easy, in my experiance
[01:21] <andlabs> all right
[01:21] <andlabs> I'll keep a note of that thanks

issues of policy:

  • LineEdit heights on Windows seem too big; either that or LineEdit, Button, and Label text is not vertically centered properly
    • are Checkboxes and Comboboxes too small?
  • consolidate scroll view code in GTK+? it's not a lot, but it's rather divergent...
  • I wonder if I should be reporting if keyboard events ar ehandled or not (force them to be marked as not handled so Windows can work properly or something else??? need to see how Mac OS X does it (calling super?))
  • left/right modifiers are presently undefined; see if we can make them not

problem points:

  • because the main event loop is not called if initialization fails, it is presently impossible for MsgBoxError() to work if UI initialization fails; this basically means we cannot allow initializiation to fail on Mac OS X if we want to be able to report UI init failures to the user with one (which would be desirable, maybe (would violate Windows HIG?))
  • make sure GTK+ documentation version point differences (x in 4.3.x) don't matter
    • I found a GTK+ version number meaning page somewhere; have to find it again (TODO)

twists of fate:

  • listboxes spanning the vertical height of the window don't always align with the bottom border of the edit control attached to the bottom of the window...
    • this specifically only happens when the window has an odd height; I don't think this can be fixed unless we explicitly ignore the extra pixel everywhere
  • need a way to get ideal size for all controls on Windows, not just push buttons (Microsoft...)
  • Cocoa controls have padding around them; this padding is opaque so we can't just use the control's cell rect and some shuffling around
  • when programs that use this package are running, you will not be able to shut down/log off/etc. on Mac OS X because they indiscriminately respond to requests to close with "no" so as to give Go and our program which does not strictly play by NSApplication's rules a fair shot at proper cleanup; this is really a consequence of the way applications work in Cocoa...
  • non-editable comboboxes in GTK+ have extra stuff to make them wider than other controls and thus cut off slightly but noticeably if the window is too small despite having the correct width

style changes:

  • make specific wording in documentation consistent (make/create, etc.)
    • document minor details like wha thappens on specific events so that they are guaranteed to work the same on all platforms (are there any left?)
      • what happens when the user clicks and drags on a listbox
        • I think this is a platform behavior...
    • should field descriptions in method comments include the receiver name? (for instance e.Held vs. Held) - see what Go's own documentation does
    • need to figure out exactly how to indicate that a struct{}{} is sent on an event channel (I use about six or so different wordings so far...)
    • "package ui", "the package", "ui package" (in code and comments)
      • also "library" both in docs and comments and code, etc.
  • make passing of parameters and type conversions of parameters to uitask on Windows consistent: explicit _WPARAM(xxx)/_LPARAM(xxx)/uintptr(xxx), for example
    • do this for type signatures in exported functions: (err error) or just error?
    • do this for the names of GTK+ helper functions (gtkXXX or gXXX)
    • areaView -> goArea (or change the class name to be like the delegate name?) in area_darwin.go?

far off:

  • localization
  • strip unused constants from the Windows files
  • combine more Windows files; rename some?
  • tab stops
  • using the name Stack means we'll need to figure out what to call what are effectively tabless notebooks (probably that)
    • I won't rename Stack to Box because Box means a lot of different things (for example, in GTK+ it's Stack, but in Cocoa it's groupbox)
  • maybe change multiple selection lists to checkbox lists?
  • change the MsgBox() calls to encourage good alert dialog design??????? maybe? TODO
  • make gcc (Unix)/clang (Mac OS X) pedantic about warnings/errors; also -Werror
    • problem: cgo-generated files trip -Werror up; I can't seem to turn off unused argument warnings with the -Wall/-Wextra/-pedantic options
  • strip non-Windows XP constants from the Windows constants files? or at least just comment them all out...
  • add a check to ensure Common Controls 6 is loaded; that is, to ensure the activation context was actually activated and that some other package didn't unwittingly give us the wrong one
  • keyboard and mouse wheel scrolling in Areas
    • probably as a toggle (Area.SetKeyboardScrollable()) that inhibits those KeyEvents
      • then the numpad becomes an issue

far off/notes to self:

  • "Version #.##" in MSDN refers to the Windows version, not the version of Common Controls; clear this up wherever (thanks to lh_mouse in irc.oftc.net/#mingw-w64)
    • or maybe not? it's some oddity with LVGS_COLLAPSIBLE...
  • see if eXene solved my Area drawing concurrency problems

big things:

  • make sure every sysData function only performs a single invocation to uitask; see http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/10/479124.aspx#479182
    • windows: this requires major restructuring
    • gtk, mac: this just requires checking
  • steamroll ALL errors, especially on windows
    • gtk: no way to catch errors
    • cocoa: discouraged
  • make fully lock free
  • preferred sizes in general are awkward: on Windows, no text-based size calculation is performed, so we have weird things like Labels always having the same width (so if you place a Label in a Stack by itself and forget to make it stretchy, it'll be truncated on Windows (but not on GTK+ or OS X?!))

big dumb things:

  • listboxes should have horizontal scrollbars on all platforms; this is way too hard on OS X and doesn't work; my code is in experiments/
    • also moved the Windows code there for the sake of efficiency
    • GTK+ works just fine though
  • window sizes need to not include the window decoration; while Mac OS X and GTK+ both obey this, I've only had issues with Windows; check the experiments/ folder
    • also will need to be documented in window.go

specifics:

WINDOWS
TODO re-evaluate this list for Common Controls 6-only stuff (controls and features) I passed up on the first itme

  • DateTime Picker
  • ListView for Tables
  • either Property Sheets or Tabs for Tabs
  • either Rebar or Toolbar for Toolbars
  • Status Bar
  • Tooltip (should be a property of each control)
  • Trackbar for Sliders
    • cannot automatically snap to custom step; need to do it manually
  • Tree View
  • Up-Down Control for Spinners
  • maybe:
    • swap ComboBox for ComboBoxEx (probably only if requested enough)
    • IP Address control (iff GTK+ and Cocoa have it; maybe not necessary if we allow arbitrary target addresses?)
    • ListView for its Icon View?
    • something similar to Task Dialog might be useful to have as a convenience template later
  • TODO
  • notes to self:

GTK+

  • GtkCalendar for date selection (TODO doesn't handle times)
  • GtkNotebook for Tabs
  • GtkScale for Sliders
    • cannot automatically snap to INTEGERS (let alone to custom steps); need to do it manually
    • natural size is 0x0 for some reason
  • GtkSpinButton for Spinners
  • GtkStatusBar
  • GtkToolbar
  • maybe:
    • GtkFontButton would be nice but unless ComboBoxEx provides it Windows doesn't
      • same for GtkColorButton
    • GtkIconView
    • GtkSeparator (I think Windows makes this a mode of Static controls?)
  • notes to self:

COCOA

  • NSDatePicker for date/time selection
  • NSOutlineView for tree views
  • NSSlider for Sliders
  • NSStatusBar
  • NSStepper for Spinners
    • TODO does this require me to manually pair it with a single-line text entry field?
  • NSTabView for Tabs
  • NSTableView for Tables
  • NSToolbar
  • maybe:
    • NSBrowser seems nice...???
    • NSCollectionView for Icon View?
    • NSColorWell is the color button
    • NSOpenGLView for OpenGL; need to see how much OpenGL-specific stuff I need to expose
    • NSRuleEditor/NSPredicateEditor look nice too but
  • notes to self:
    • groupbox is NSBox
    • don't look at NSForm; though it arranges in the ideal form layout, it only allows single-line text entry fields as controls
  • TODO:
    • what does NSPathControl look like?

ALL THREE; LIST BY FEATURE (TODO merge the above into this)

OTHER NOTES

THOUGHTS

  • privilege escalation requests
    • windows vista and up use a button with a shield icon and osme other API that I don't know before performing the privileged action
    • typically graphical unix programs nowadays use a graphical sudo prompt provided by the desktop environment (gksu or kdesudo or what not) either before the program even runs or after clicking a button to start the process with elevated privileges
    • Cocoa uses a button with a lock on it that will disable the entire form when unlocked, then ask for permission when clicked

Slider Capabilities

Capability Windows GTK+ Cocoa
Data Type int float float
Can Simulate ints? yes TODO TODO
Mouse Step Snap 1, fixed something; likely 0.1 but not sure yes (setAllowsTickMarkValuesOnly:); caveat: must specify an exact number of ticks (see below)
Keyboard Step Snap configurable configurable TODO (same as mouse?)
Current Value Display tooltip during drag label, always visible TODO
Tooltips? TODO TODO TODO
Ticks configurable display, configurable interval TODO configurable display; configurable COUNT (not interval!)
Can Catch Mouse Events to Snap? I think this is how to do it TODO TODO
Preferred Size given in UI guidelines natural: 0x0; minimum: TODO TODO

Spinner Capabilities

Capability Windows GTK+ Cocoa
Data Type int float flaot
Can Simulate ints? yes yes TODO
Mouse Step Snap 1, fixed configurable configurable
Keyboard Step Snap 1, fixed configurable (uses same value as mouse) TODO (same as mouse?)
Can Catch Events To Snap? TODO no need TODO
Preferred Size TODO TODO TODO

Dialog box hijack

Open/Save Dialogs

Windows GTK+ Cocoa
Directories no (separate facility provided by the shell) open and save open only
Network vs. local only (URI vs. filename) Network button enabled by default; can be switched off (TODO how are network filenames returned?) yes (default local only; if local only, changing to, say, smb://127.0.0.1/ will pop up an error box; if nonlocal allowed, filename can be null) xxx
Multiple selection yes yes open only
Hidden files user-specified; can be switched on in code (but is a no-op?) hidden by default; can be switched on in code (but is a no-op?) and also by the user xxx
Overwrite confirmation available; must be explicitly enabled available; must be explicitly enabled xxx
New Folder button xxx optional (I think enabled by default? should do it explicitly to be safe, anyway) optional
Preview widget xxx yes; optional, custom xxx
Extra custom widget xxx yes; optional yes; optional
File filters Specified by "patterns" (consisting of filename characters and * but not space; I assume the only safe ones are *.ext and .); multiple patterns separated by semicolons; can have custom labels Specified by MIME type (handles subtypes; has wildcards) or pattern ("shell-style glob", so I assume over whole basename) or by custom function; can have multiple of the above; can have custom labels; also has a shortcut to add all gdk-pixbuf-supported formats Specified by "UTI"s or by individual filename extensions (format not documented but appears to be just the extension without embellishments); cannot have labels; 1:1 filter:extension mapping.
File filter list format "Label\0Filter-list\0Label\0Filter-list\0...Label\0FIlter-list\0\0"; filter for all files is canonically "All Files\0*.*\0\0" in the docs (specifically this due to handling of shortcut links); also provides a way for users to write in their own filters Add or remove individual GtkFileFIlter objects; can select one specified in the list to show by default; default behavior is all files; if selected one when none has been specified, filter selection disabled; filter for all files specified in docs under gtk_file_filter_new() (except doesn't set a name) NSArray of filter strings, or nil for All Files. There is no provision to have an "all files" option: you either specify a set of filters or you don't. (See filename extension auto-append below.). All filters are applied at once; there is no way to select. We might need to introduce an accessory panel (extra widget) to fake the filtering rules of other platforms...
Default file name settable settable settable (as the filename label)
Initial directory complex rules that have changed over time; we can pass an absolute filename (the previous filename or a default filename) and have its path used (if we specify just a path it will either be used as the filename or the program will crash); or we can give it a directory; or Windows will remember for us for some time, or... pass previous filename or URI to show; overrides default file name; intended only for saving files (so I don't know if it's possible to remember current directory for opening??????); effect of passing containing directory undocumented(???? in my tests the given folder itself is selected) has some rules; there is a way to specify a custom one; seems to have the undocumented effect that it selects the file if a file is named
Confirmation and cancel buttons xxx GTK_STOCK_OPEN, GTK_STOCK_SAVE, GTK_STOCK_SAVE_AS / GTK_STOCK_CANCEL cancel button predefined; confirmation button can be changed (setPrompt:) but TODO the docs imply prompt is actually a global property?
Returned filename rules xxxx memory provided by GTK+ itself (so no need to worry about size limits); can return a single filename or URI or a GSList of filenames or URIs xxx
Window title optional; defaults to either Open or Save As required(?) optional for save (defaults to Save); unknown (TODO) for Open
Prompt to create new files available; must be explicitly enabled; seems to only apply to Open File dialogs (TODO) xxx xxx
Adds file to a Recent Documents list available; must be explicitly disabled xxx xxx
Allows nonexistent files to be created in Open dialogs yes; can be switched off xxx xxx
"Open as read-only"/"Save as read-only" checkbox provided; default; can be switched off xxx xxx
Navigating changes the current working directory of the program yes; can be switched off for Save dialogs only (????) xxx xxx
Link following For .lnk files, enabled by default iff a filter is specified; the All Files filter above is listed as being necessary to follow links; can be shut off with a flag in all cases xxx For Finder aliases, setResolvesAliases:
Help button Available; old-style dialog boxes need a parent window (Explorer-style ones don't; they just need a hook function) xxx xxx
Extension auto-appending Optional; three-character maximum; doesn't seem to be available on a per-filter basis xxx NOT OPTIONAL. The only way to avoid this is to not specify any filters. You can't even circumvent this with a delegate. If the user specifies another extension, they are asked to choose one if setAllowsOtherFileTypes: is set. (TODO could we use nameFieldStringValue to circumvent?)
Other labels xxx xxx field before filename entry can be changed; also can provide an additional optional message
Multiple selection allows empty selection xxx xxx xxx

TODO

  • Windows: OFN_NOTESTFILECREATE might be necessary
  • Windows: OFN_NOVALIDATE - see what happens without a hook
  • Windows: OFN_SHAREAWARE - this is a weird one but it's network related
  • Windows: templates seem to be how to provide extra parameters, but their usage isn't documented on the OPENFILENAME struct help page; check the rest of MSDN
  • Mac OS X: turn on both setExtensionHidden: and setCanSelectHiddenExtension: to show the extnesion in the dialog
  • Mac OS X: turn on setTreatsFilePackagesAsDirectories: since file packages (bundles) are an OS X-specific concept

The Scrollbar Series

This actually turns out to be one of the very first things that Raymond ever blogged about, so if you just go to the last page of posts on The Old New Thing, it'll be there. But for my own convenience:

TODO SORT (TODO the original time formats article)

interesting things

articles on time

up to http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/default.aspx?PageIndex=344 last one: What is the difference between "Unpin from Start menu" and "Remove from this list"?

windows stock icons

a few more oldnewthing things